Change Agrees with Him: Fred Miller Joins Practice? Podcast
Recently, Fred Miller joined host Dave Fearon on the Practice? Podcast. Practice? is a podcast that explores what it means to live a “practiced life”—the conscious ability to produce intended results across changing circumstances while growing yourself to meet those changes. Co-founded by Dave Fearon and the late organizational theorist Peter B. Vaill, the podcast examines practice as “the dark matter of the social sciences.”
In the episode, “Change Agrees with Him,” Fred and Dave explore what five decades of organizational development work reveal about leading through continuous transformation. Fred and Dave discuss how to see change not as a threat but as an unprecedented opportunity to strengthen organizations and leadership practice.
In this conversation, you’ll hear:
Why this wave of change is different and why it presents new opportunities for organizational development
How Peter B. Vaill’s concept of “permanent white water” shapes leadership and the consulting practice
What decades of consulting with companies like Apple, Oracle, and hundreds more reveal about what stays constant and what’s genuinely new in organizational life
How seasoned practitioners stay engaged, continue learning, and maintain energy in a field that evolves constantly
The connection between personal practice and guiding organizations through complex transformations
If you’re leading through uncertainty, supporting teams during periods of change, or interested in what a lifetime of transformation work teaches about adaptation and leadership, this episode offers practical insight and a fresh perspective.
Click to listen today: Practice? Podcast – Episode 286: Change Agrees with Him